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Social Costs

I feel very strongly about pornography.
This website is not Christian. It contains a variety of people talking about the social costs of pornography from very different angles.
But you should visit it and be informed. Know what you're getting yourself into, what you're already into.
The Social Costs of Pornography
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OK, I'll write this knowing fully that parts may offend

OK, you prefaced this with 'this website is not christian' Was this meant to lend extra weight to the views expressed therein? Does the fact that it's non christian make it impartial?

This site is the worst type of wrong. It employs what I consider the worst type of logical fallacy - a modern day version of Reductio ad Hitlerum - the link to pedophilia. Pedophiles view porn. That may be true, but so do I. Child molesters view porn. That may be true also, but so do I. There is no proven link between sexual deviancy and porn viewing, but this site asserts one.

Here's the argument summarised
Pedophiles watch porn, therefore porn is bad. Or perhaps porn leads to pedophilia.

But not only is it not proven that pedophiles view porn (child pornography is another matter, which is illegal and blocked from viewing for a reason) it's also a very dubious link. What's to say viewing pornography causes sexual deviancy? Is it not the other way around? The implication seems to ignore the fact that most adults are porn viewers (I'll admit I have nothing but my feelings to go by, but I'm pretty certain the majority of adults do look at porn). If I, or anyone else you meet on the street, wants to look at photos of people who get paid to be naked, why shouldn't we?

I should go now. Anyway...This is my first time on Livejournal for months...

Re: OK, I'll write this knowing fully that parts may offend

The preface was there in order to assure you that it does not come from a Biblical bias, thus nullifying the statements it makes from the perspective of a secularist.

Furthermore, I've been watching a number of videos from the site and I have not found anything that links to paedophilia. Can you tell me which page you found it on? Furthermore, the arguments against pornography are for more complex that just "Pedophiles watch porn, therefore porn is bad. Or perhaps porn leads to pedophilia." So many different arguments are presented and I really don't think you've gotten the whole picture if that is your summary. This site does indeed assert a link between pornography and sexual deviancy, but it is far more than paedophilia.
Your summary employs the worst type of logical fallacy - a modern day version of Reductio ad Hitlerum. By latching on to the paedophilia issue, you're ignoring the rest of the points and how it could possibly apply to you further along in time. Why not rather, heed the warning and proceed according to how you see fit?

"If I, or anyone else you meet on the street, wants to look at photos of people who get paid to be naked, why shouldn't we? "
Because of all these arguments against it presented on the site. Including these two which stuck out for me:
- the breakdown of healthy sexual relationships between couples, leading to the breakdown of those relationships. The video "Pornography's Effect on Interpersonal Relationships" explored that in more detail.
- the personal impact of sensitisation and tolerance towards sex which leads to dissatisfaction in sexual relationships and wanting to get a bigger 'hit' to experience the same high. The video "Acquiring Tastes and Loves" was very interesting in describing the psychological effects in mapping the brain.

It's not as if I'm telling you to stop. But I am imploring people to consider the damage that porn brings and make a more informed decisions.
My hope though, is for people to stop viewing it. As a women, I am frightened by some of the things done to women in the porn industry. Not because it brings them actual harm - these are actresses after all. But because this is what some men fantasise about!?!?!? That scares the shit out of me! What if that man takes the next step of acting out on this? What if it ends in rape - as is actually happening in real life!?


Edited at 2010-04-08 09:27 am (UTC)

Re: OK, I'll write this knowing fully that parts may offend

The front page. I didn't get past that, and I'm not going back for several reasons. Mainly that it won't change my opinion. Also I can't stand sites with music that automatically plays.

As for relationships falling apart, that depends on the relationship - and I'd say it's the desires and the lack of communication there - relationships like that would fall apart anyway. And I don't believe the brain mapping thing at all... But without looking at it I can't really add anything to that conversation.

Re: OK, I'll write this knowing fully that parts may offend

Are you talking about this quote here?
There is evidence that the prevalence of pornography in the lives of many children and adolescents is far more significant than most adults realize, that pornography is deforming the healthy sexual development of these young viewers, and that it is used to exploit children and adolescents.

Because the main point is not paedophilia. It's talking about the unhealthy sexual education children are getting at the hands of the internet and porn industry.

But without looking at it I can't really add anything to that conversation.
Yes. Please don't. But if you do look at it, I'm happy to continue this discussion.

Pornography is lame.

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